No, is the short answer. We respectfully disagree with the Vice President of the United States of America, Mr. J. D. Vance, about his recent statement that he believes the UFOs / UAP (and presumably the pilots / occupants thereof) are Demons.
While this theory can make sense from a legalistic religiosity perspective, it also serves to strike fear in the hearts of the God-Fearing humans that walk planet Earth. But at the end of the day, the truth is: there is no actual evidence, aside sporadic anecdotal accounts, to back this belief system.
We will recognize there a handful of reports of people “warding of” an “alien abduction” by calling on the name of Jesus Christ, there are also reports of the same, wherein this protocol did not work. Thus, spreading a fear-based narrative like this does not help anything. But maybe that was the point? We can’t say what the motivations of Vice President J. D. Vance are or were when he made that comment.
The theories abound if these beings are of a different dimension, different time, or native to Earth and farther along the evolutionary process than us mere mortal humans, all of which postulations lend to the Official US Government statement that they are not “extraterrestrial”, to be a true statement, albeit a half-truth. But that in and of itself does not then mean they are Demons.
We find it interesting how we have been talking about this exact topic almost exclusively for years now, and the public facing narrative that is being pushed out on the larger channels (outside of the mainstream legacy channels) has now shifted to the thing we discuss, BUT, it has a fear-based narrative designed to control and keep you in your place. – That is interesting, telling and predictable.
Let us also not forget the physical aspect of all this as well. There are many people, some rather prominent, fighting Washington D.C., to release information about UFO / UAP hardware (aka craft, space ships etc.) and physical bodies (aka “biologics”) that are related to the UAP topic (commonly referred to as UFOs and Aliens). To just write this all off as Demons, is a lazy and immature approach to the most fascinating topic humans will ever discuss.
We would welcome a conversation with J. D. Vance about this topic, but that will likely not happen, since we are authentically unscripted and do not edit our conversations. That could be a very dangerous thing for a public figure who relies upon “optics”, editing and sound bites. Nonetheless, the invitation is there and shall remain open in perpetuity.
MayCay Beeler, Chief Transportation Correspondent for Queen City News, interviews Mike about being a MUFON Investigator and Mike shares 2 cases of interest, both with the theme of the US Military chasing UFOs.
So, I have taken a deep dive with my friend Rev. Stu, into the UFO Disclosure Movement and now see what the real problem is and why there is so much push-back and lack of success in the overall UAP Transparency movement that is more commonly known as UFO Disclosure amongst the UFO community.
After podcasting for 2 seasons, what I discovered was not what I was expecting. It is so overwhelming that it is hard to grasp at first, in fact, impossible to digest in a short amount of time. It unfolds like a flower, creating a bigger and bigger picture with each emerging petal. Everything is connected. Most of this is not obvious. Once you start to see the truth, you cannot un-see it. Then, the world begins to look different. Better than you ever imagined possible, actually!
I was like everyone else: Yup, there are aliens and they travel in physical craft. These beings are from places unknown but obviously have a technology far superior to anything humans have ever made. After all, they can come and go as they please, anywhere, anytime and there are no consequences. They can even turn off (or on) our Nuclear Missiles just to show Sovereignty.
What seems obvious at first is a sleek Red herring. As we speak with people “on the record” from around the world, and as I speak with people privately, it is clear to me now that more and more people are realizing what is ‘under the hood’ of the UFO.
So, why all the secrets and why all the mystery behind this? Why can’t we just openly talk about the fact that humanity is not alone in this universe? Why are people threatened, silenced censored and ridiculed just for having conversations like this? If there is nothing to this, it should not matter, right? It’s all in good fun… Let the children play!
BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING TO LOSE!
I believe the answer is beyond the surface-level of the physical craft with wonderful technology of these mysterious biological creatures who come from unknown places. It is much more profound than that, actually.
Some people are afraid to even have these conversations we have on this channel because they either don’t understand what this really is, or they are scared that it might be true. The other alternative is that they are consumed by their own ego, stuck in the maze.
To quote Mike’s friend Stan: “Enter the Maze and Exit”.
The door is directly in front of you. All you have to do is open it. Will the fear of what is on the other side keep you guessing, wondering, anxious, depressed, nervous, scared etc.?
If any of this resonates with you, then you will love each and every one of our conversations. You see, we are here to make you think, to expand your consciousness and become a better person so that you can navigate this world with ease as these changes emerge.
The real change is not going to be from any one Country, Government, Institution, Person or Group. It is from the people of all countries, Humanity, and it is well underway. This is a Global shift in consciousness that you are part of because you chose to be here. It is an unstoppable energy causing a tectonic shift in Earth’s Psyche.
The UFO is the most important conversation you will ever have. So, please feel free to join us; via listening, sharing, commenting, and if you feel so inclined, reach out to join us on screen. We are always looking for intelligent conversations from all over the world. Share your story, experience, research or message with us.
What if humanity’s origins have been misunderstood for thousands of years? What if the beings described as gods in ancient religious texts were actually an advanced extraterrestrial civilization?
These are among the extraordinary questions explored in this episode of the Universal Disclosure Podcast, as UFO Investigator Mike and Reverend Stu welcome Rabbi Ariel Leon Mellul of the Raëlian Movement for a fascinating conversation about extraterrestrial intelligence, human origins, cloning, religion, and the possibility of future contact.
The discussion takes an unconventional look at the Raëlian belief system, which proposes that an advanced extraterrestrial civilization known as the Elohim created humanity through sophisticated scientific and genetic processes. Could ancient religious accounts describe encounters with technologically advanced beings rather than supernatural entities? And what might this interpretation mean for humanity’s understanding of its own history?
As always, Mike and Stu approach the conversation with curiosity, asking questions and exploring ideas without automatically accepting every claim as established fact.
Who Are the Raëlians and What Do They Believe About the Elohim?
The Raëlian Movement is built around the teachings of Claude Vorilhon, known as Raël, who claims to have encountered extraterrestrial beings in 1973.
According to the Raëlian account, these beings identified themselves as the Elohim and communicated a message about humanity’s origins and the true nature of life on Earth.
Rather than describing the Elohim as supernatural gods, Raëlian teachings characterize them as an advanced extraterrestrial civilization whose scientific capabilities were far beyond those of early humanity.
Rabbi Ariel Leon Mellul joins Mike and Stu to explain these beliefs and discuss how the Raëlian interpretation differs from traditional religious perspectives, including Judaism.
The conversation also explores how the movement understands its founding message, the role of Raël, and its objective of preparing humanity for the eventual return of the Elohim.
Did Extraterrestrials Create Humanity Through Genetic Engineering?
One of the most intriguing aspects of the Raëlian belief system is its explanation of human origins.
Rather than accepting the traditional interpretation of divine creation, Raëlian teachings propose that humanity was scientifically created by an advanced extraterrestrial civilization.
The idea raises some enormous questions.
Could an advanced civilization possess the technology to create biological life through genetic engineering? Could what ancient civilizations interpreted as divine intervention have involved scientific processes they simply did not understand?
Mike and Stu explore these concepts with their guest, including the relationship between extraterrestrial technology, human evolution, and the possibility that ancient accounts of creation may deserve another look.
The discussion also examines the Raëlian interpretation of the biblical Great Flood and the possibility that extraterrestrial intervention played a role in events traditionally understood through religious teachings.
These are extraordinary propositions, but they provide an opportunity to examine how different interpretations of humanity’s past can influence the modern UFO and UAP conversation.
Human Cloning, Genetic Engineering and the Possibility of Immortality
Perhaps one of the most controversial subjects discussed is human cloning.
The Raëlian Movement has long emphasized the importance of science and advanced biological technology, including cloning and the possibility of extending human life.
During the conversation, Rabbi Mellul explains the movement’s perspective on cloning, while Mike and Stu explore the implications of technology capable of reproducing biological organisms.
Could advanced genetic engineering eventually allow humanity to overcome some of the limitations of biological life?
What would happen if memories, personality, or other aspects of an individual could somehow be transferred into a cloned body?
And if an extraterrestrial civilization had mastered these technologies thousands of years ago, could that help explain why ancient accounts describe beings with seemingly extraordinary abilities?
The conversation moves beyond conventional discussions of UFO sightings and into the intersection of biotechnology, extraterrestrial intelligence, and humanity’s possible future.
The Garden of Eden, Noah’s Flood and the Transfer of Souls
The discussion takes another fascinating turn as Mike, Reverend Stu, and their guest examine biblical stories through the lens of Raëlian teachings.
Subjects include the Garden of Eden, Noah’s Flood, and the possibility that ancient religious accounts may describe interactions with an advanced extraterrestrial civilization.
The conversation also explores the concept of transferring souls and whether the traditional understanding of the human soul aligns with the Raëlian worldview.
These subjects naturally lead to some fundamental philosophical questions.
What actually happens when we die? Is there something beyond our physical bodies? Does consciousness continue after biological death?
Interestingly, the Raëlian perspective on the soul differs considerably from traditional religious teachings, providing an opportunity for a thought-provoking exchange between the guest and Reverend Stu.
Does Humanity Have a Soul? What Happens After Death?
Few questions have occupied humanity for as long as the mystery of consciousness and what happens after death.
Religious traditions, philosophers, and scientists have approached these questions from very different directions, yet there remains considerable debate about the true nature of human consciousness.
In this episode, Rabbi Mellul explains the Raëlian position on the soul and the afterlife, challenging some deeply established assumptions about human existence.
Mike and Stu explore these ideas from their own perspectives, examining the relationship between physical existence, consciousness, and the possibility that our understanding of life itself may be incomplete.
For anyone interested in the intersection of UFOs, spirituality, religion, and consciousness, this portion of the discussion offers plenty to consider.
The Elohim’s Return in 2027: Is Humanity Approaching a Turning Point?
One of the most intriguing subjects toward the end of the conversation is the possibility of the Elohim returning to Earth.
The discussion examines the Raëlian expectation of a future return and the significance of 2027 within the movement’s beliefs.
What would such an event mean for humanity?
Would governments be prepared? Would the public accept the existence of an advanced extraterrestrial civilization? And how might confirmation of non-human intelligence affect established religious, political, and social institutions?
These questions connect directly to the broader UFO disclosure conversation.
For decades, the public discussion surrounding UFOs and UAPs has focused heavily on unexplained sightings, military encounters, government investigations, and the possibility of recovered technology.
But what if the implications of disclosure extend much further?
What if humanity must also reconsider its understanding of history, religion, consciousness, and its place in the universe?
The conversation doesn’t attempt to settle these questions. Instead, it invites listeners to examine the possibilities and consider what future contact could mean.
Peace, Global Meditation and the Raëlian Vision for Humanity
The final portion of the discussion explores the broader goals of the Raëlian Movement.
Among the subjects are global peace, human unity, the relationship between individual behavior and humanity as a whole, and the concept that harming others ultimately harms ourselves.
The conversation also examines mass meditation and the possibility that collective human consciousness could influence society.
These ideas introduce an interesting contrast to some of the more controversial extraterrestrial claims discussed earlier.
Regardless of where someone stands on the Raëlian explanation of humanity’s origins, the broader questions of peace, cooperation, and humanity’s future are worth examining in their own right.
One Conversation, Some Extraordinary Questions
This episode of the Universal Disclosure Podcast is a reminder that the UFO phenomenon cannot always be confined to discussions about objects in the sky.
The possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence raises questions that reach into science, religion, philosophy, history, and our understanding of consciousness.
Could ancient descriptions of gods have been accounts of advanced beings? Could humanity’s origins be more complicated than we currently understand? And if extraterrestrial contact were eventually confirmed, how would that change the way we see ourselves?
Mike and Reverend Stu welcome conversations that challenge conventional thinking, even when the subjects are controversial or difficult to reconcile with established beliefs.
You don’t have to agree with every idea presented to find value in examining it.
Watch the full conversation with Rabbi Ariel Leon Mellul and explore the Raëlian perspective on the Elohim, human origins, extraterrestrial intelligence, and the future of humanity.
Watch the Full Episode
Raëlity Check: The Elohim Agenda and Raëlian Movement
Mike and Reverend Stu welcome Rabbi Ariel Leon Mellul for an open discussion about the Raëlian Movement, extraterrestrial origins, human cloning, consciousness, and the possibility of future contact.
Episode Chapters
00:00 – Introduction
01:32 – Who are we talking to today?
09:35 – Rabbi Ariel Leon Mellul joins the conversation
11:06 – Raëlian beliefs compared with traditional Judaism
15:02 – Who was Raël?
24:05 – Is there physical proof of the claimed message?
26:06 – Why are governments afraid of UFO disclosure?
27:18 – Why are governments forbidding cloning?
29:00 – An explanation and demonstration of cloning
33:00 – Did extraterrestrials cause the Great Flood?
37:00 – The Garden of Eden and transferring souls
40:55 – Understanding the Raëlian Message
41:30 – Why all the interest in Israel?
45:09 – Do Raëlians meet in a temple or church?
47:13 – The goals of the Raëlian Movement
48:59 – War upon others is war against yourself
49:44 – The Raëlian view of governmental UFO disclosure
52:20 – Who really runs the world?
54:32 – Do humans have a soul?
59:00 – What happens after death?
01:02:00 – Is there a timeline for the Elohim’s return?
01:03:53 – Was the guest a Rabbi before becoming a Raëlian?
01:05:46 – The 2027 prediction
01:07:10 – A future UDP debate?
01:08:55 – Where to obtain the Raëlian book
01:10:17 – Does mass meditation lower crime rates?
01:13:49 – Mike and Stu’s debrief
About Universal Disclosure Podcast
One Phenomenon. Multiple Manifestations. A Deeper Mystery.
Universal Disclosure Podcast brings together UFO field investigation and spiritual inquiry to explore the UFO/UAP phenomenon from multiple perspectives.
Hosted by UFO Investigator Mike and Reverend Stu, the show examines government disclosure, unexplained encounters, non-human intelligence, consciousness, spirituality, and the questions that challenge our understanding of reality.
We believe the conversation deserves an open mind, thoughtful questions, and a willingness to look beyond familiar explanations.
